Work in progress proposal: £300 to cover transport to acquiring approx 100 solar panels for free

Via word of mouth, we have been given the opportunity to receive up to approx 100 solar panels from University Hospitals of North Midlands NHS Trust as they are trying to get rid of them. They are at about 60-70% capacity of what they would be when new. They are just the panels as far as we know and thus would required additional equipment to be functional.

We have been offered them for free as long as we ta.ke care of picking them up. There is a chance that the deal may fall through, especially as we are organising this in our spare time as best we can. @Mani and @breadbin have been in touch directly. We also formed a small working group in a Signal chat to coordinate under the name Solar Panel Abundance.

We have been in discussions with our contact at the trust for a couple of weeks and have also made plans for free storage at a rural housing co-operative.

We plan to distribute amongst all of the Birmingham housing co-operatives e.g. Gung Ho, Varna, Paula’s House and Stirchley Co-operative Development. We can also deicide what other projects to give them to.

It makes sense to also sell a large chunk of them to generate income for Co-operation Birmingham to cover the costs of hiring vehicles and additional equipment and fitting.

We believe we will need to hire two Luton vans (or make two trips) to pick up the panels from the site in Stafford and drive them to the rural housing co-operative for storage and distribution. We understand that a Luton van will cost £200 per day for hire.

This is a significant investment for Co-op Brum when our OpenCollective balance is a bit low (£475.24 at time of writing) but it’s too good an opportunity to miss for the social economy movement.

Our plan is to use £300 of Co-op Brum money to pay for transport and raise additional funds as donations via a sub project. We think there will be lots of allies willing to donate. Ideally we would raise approx £600 to cover all costs.

We will also need lots of help physically shifting the panels into the vans and unloading them on the other end. Details TBC.

Feel free to ask any questions or make suggestions. This is quite a last minute big project but it’s a good idea to take serendipitous opportunities when they arise.

I made an OpenCollective sub project in preparation for this project: Solar Panel Abudnance - Open Collective

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Do we have any technical information on the panels at all, to quote up what parts would be needed to make them work?

Report back from the working group:

It’s currently looking like we may not continue with this initative. We consulted with the Retrofit Balsall Heath folks and they gave us some information which suggests that it may not make sense to take on these panels. I’m parra phrasing here but here are the issues:

  • Our two drivers of large vehicles are unavailable for most likely a couple of weeks
  • Schuco 190W panels are really old, maybe half as powerful and then also whatever less than their original output.
  • BH Retrofit we should seek advice from an MCS accredited installer as to whether they would fit them due to things like insurance, paper trail, efficiency and costs.

I had one persona concern. We’re going to burn a lot of energy (pun intended) on this project now and going forwards when it’s my opinion that it’s more strategic that we should be focussing on setting up a food co-op in Stichley in the next 6 months as was discussed at the last meeting.

thanks for chasing this up. was worth investigating. also thanks to BH retrofit for the consultation

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One interesting nugget of info: last night someone told me that Coop Hull or Coop Sheffield (maybe both!) were working on an energy co-operative. Don’t know if it’s worth reaching out to see if they want to take this on.

We have an energy co-op in Birmingham - Community Energy Birmingham. Shaz from Artefact is a director. He’s also pretty knowledgable about solar/all things energy as he does stuff related to solar in his day job.

Not promising anything, but York Supplies are running energy cafes with CEB and might able to help flog solar panels to interested people. The new community centre in Kings Heath also mentioned wanting a solar installation.